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HomeMy WebLinkAboutDAQ-2024-009139 DAQE-AN100210008-24 {{$d1 }} Grant Ensign Geneva Rock Products, Incorporated 1565 West 400 North Orem, UT 84057 gensign@clydeinc.com Dear Mr. Ensign: Re: Approval Order: Administrative Amendment to Approval Order DAQE-AN0100210007-09, for a 10-Year Review and Permit Updates Project Number: N100210008 The attached Approval Order (AO) is issued pursuant to the Division of Air Quality conducting a 10-year administrative review of this source and its respective AO. Geneva Rock Products, Incorporated must comply with the requirements of this AO, all applicable state requirements (R307), and Federal Standards. The project engineer for this action is Katie Andersen, who can be contacted at (385) 515-1748 or kandersen@utah.gov. Future correspondence on this AO should include the engineer's name as well as the DAQE number shown on the upper right-hand corner of this letter. Sincerely, {{$s }} Bryce C. Bird Director BCB:KA:jg cc: Bear River Health Department 195 North 1950 West • Salt Lake City, UT Mailing Address: P.O. Box 144820 • Salt Lake City, UT 84114-4820 Telephone (801) 536-4000 • Fax (801) 536-4099 • T.D.D. (801) 536-4414 www.deq.utah.gov Printed on 100% recycled paper State of Utah SPENCER J. COX Governor DEIDRE HENDERSON Lieutenant Governor Department of Environmental Quality Kimberly D. Shelley Executive Director DIVISION OF AIR QUALITY Bryce C. Bird Director July 9, 2024 STATE OF UTAH Department of Environmental Quality Division of Air Quality {{#s=Sig_es_:signer1:signature}} {{#d1=date1_es_:signer1:date:format(date, "mmmm d, yyyy")}} {{#d2=date1_es_:signer1:date:format(date, "mmmm d, yyyy"):align(center)}} APPROVAL ORDER DAQE-AN100210008-24 Administrative Amendment to Approval Order DAQE-AN0100210007-09, for a 10-Year Review and Permit Updates Prepared By Katie Andersen, Engineer (385) 515-1748 kandersen@utah.gov Issued to Geneva Rock Products, Incorporated - Perry Sand & Gravel Pit Issued On {{$d2 }} Issued By {{$s }} Bryce C. Bird Director Division of Air Quality July 9, 2024 TABLE OF CONTENTS TITLE/SIGNATURE PAGE ....................................................................................................... 1 GENERAL INFORMATION ...................................................................................................... 3 CONTACT/LOCATION INFORMATION ............................................................................... 3 SOURCE INFORMATION ........................................................................................................ 3 General Description ................................................................................................................ 3 NSR Classification .................................................................................................................. 3 Source Classification .............................................................................................................. 3 Applicable Federal Standards ................................................................................................. 3 Project Description.................................................................................................................. 4 SUMMARY OF EMISSIONS .................................................................................................... 4 SECTION I: GENERAL PROVISIONS .................................................................................... 4 SECTION II: PERMITTED EQUIPMENT .............................................................................. 5 SECTION II: SPECIAL PROVISIONS ..................................................................................... 6 PERMIT HISTORY ................................................................................................................... 10 ACRONYMS ............................................................................................................................... 11 DAQE-AN100210008-24 Page 3 GENERAL INFORMATION CONTACT/LOCATION INFORMATION Owner Name Source Name Geneva Rock Products, Incorporated Geneva Rock Products, Incorporated - Perry Sand & Gravel Pit Mailing Address Physical Address 1565 West 400 North 600 West 3000 South Orem, UT 84057 Perry, UT 84320 Source Contact UTM Coordinates Name: Grant Ensign 413,777 m Easting Phone: (801) 802-6954 4,589,876 m Northing Email: gensign@clydeinc.com Datum NAD83 UTM Zone 12 SIC code 1442 (Construction Sand & Gravel) SOURCE INFORMATION General Description Geneva Rock Products, Incorporated operates a concrete batch plant, aggregate mining, and processing facility called Perry Sand and Gravel Pit in Perry, Box Elder County. The facility consists of the concrete batch plant, various storage silos, various baghouses, one (1) crusher, one (1) sizing screen, one (1) wash screen, one (1) sand screw, various conveyors and stackers, two (2) diesel storage tanks, and one (1) 560-horsepower generator. NSR Classification 10-Year Review Source Classification Located in Salt Lake City UT PM2.5 NA Box Elder County Airs Source Size: B Applicable Federal Standards NSPS (Part 60), A: General Provisions NSPS (Part 60), OOO: Standards of Performance for Nonmetallic Mineral Processing Plants MACT (Part 63), A: General Provisions MACT (Part 63), ZZZZ: National Emissions Standards for Hazardous Air Pollutants for Stationary Reciprocating Internal Combustion Engines Title V (Part 70) Area Source DAQE-AN100210008-24 Page 4 Project Description This is a 10-Year Review to update the language, format, and layout of the permit to match current DAQ standards. SUMMARY OF EMISSIONS The emissions listed below are an estimate of the total potential emissions from the source. Some rounding of emissions is possible. Criteria Pollutant Change (TPY) Total (TPY) CO2 Equivalent 0 1159.00 Carbon Monoxide 0 7.61 Nitrogen Oxides 0 29.83 Particulate Matter - PM10 0 10.17 Particulate Matter - PM2.5 0 10.17 Sulfur Dioxide 0 2.29 Hazardous Air Pollutant Change (lbs/yr) Total (lbs/yr) Generic HAPs (CAS #GHAPS) 0 560 Change (TPY) Total (TPY) Total HAPs 0 0.28 SECTION I: GENERAL PROVISIONS I.1 All definitions, terms, abbreviations, and references used in this AO conform to those used in the UAC R307 and 40 CFR. Unless noted otherwise, references cited in these AO conditions refer to those rules. [R307-101] I.2 The limits set forth in this AO shall not be exceeded without prior approval. [R307-401] I.3 Modifications to the equipment or processes approved by this AO that could affect the emissions covered by this AO must be reviewed and approved. [R307-401-1] I.4 All records referenced in this AO or in other applicable rules, which are required to be kept by the owner/operator, shall be made available to the Director or Director's representative upon request, and the records shall include the two-year period prior to the date of the request. Unless otherwise specified in this AO or in other applicable state and federal rules, records shall be kept for a minimum of two (2) years. [R307-401-8] DAQE-AN100210008-24 Page 5 I.5 At all times, including periods of startup, shutdown, and malfunction, owners and operators shall, to the extent practicable, maintain and operate any equipment approved under this AO, including associated air pollution control equipment, in a manner consistent with good air pollution control practice for minimizing emissions. Determination of whether acceptable operating and maintenance procedures are being used will be based on information available to the Director which may include, but is not limited to, monitoring results, opacity observations, review of operating and maintenance procedures, and inspection of the source. All maintenance performed on equipment authorized by this AO shall be recorded. [R307-401-4] I.6 The owner/operator shall comply with R307-150 Series. Inventories, Testing and Monitoring. [R307-150] I.7 The owner/operator shall comply with UAC R307-107. General Requirements: Breakdowns. [R307-107] SECTION II: PERMITTED EQUIPMENT II.A THE APPROVED EQUIPMENT II.A.1 Perry Sand & Gravel Pit II.A.2 One (1) Concrete Batch Plant Capacity: 250 cubic yards per hour II.A.3 One (1) Cement Storage Silo Control Device: Bin Vent II.A.4 One (1) Fly Ash Storage Silo Control Device: Bin Vent II.A.5 One (1) Truck Loading Baghouse Location: Concrete Truck Loading Station II.A.6 One (1) 560-Horsepower Diesel Generator II.A.7 One (1) Cone Crusher Capacity: 150 tons per hour II.A.8 One (1) Sizing Screen Capacity: 300 tons per hour II.A.9 One (1) Wash Screen II.A.10 One (1) Sand Screw II.A.11 Associated Conveyors and Stackers II.A.12 One (1) Diesel Storage Tank Capacity: 8,000 gallons II.A.13 One (1) Diesel Storage Tank Capacity: 12,000 gallons DAQE-AN100210008-24 Page 6 SECTION II: SPECIAL PROVISIONS II.B REQUIREMENTS AND LIMITATIONS II.B.1 The Perry Sand & Gravel Pit shall be subject to the following: II.B.1.a Unless otherwise specified in this AO, the owner/operator shall not allow visible emissions from any source on site to exceed 20% opacity. [R307-401-8] II.B.1.a.1 Unless otherwise specified in this AO, opacity observations of emissions from stationary sources shall be conducted according to 40 CFR 60, Appendix A, Method 9. [R307-401-8] II.B.1.b The owner/operator shall not produce more than the following: A. 750,000 tons of aggregate processed through the crushing/screening plant per rolling 12-month period. B. 200,000 tons of aggregate harvested from the bank run (in addition to item A above) and directly transported off-site per rolling 12-month period. [R307-401-8] II.B.1.b.1 The owner/operator shall: A. Determine production by weighing products as they exit/enter the site. B. Record the weight of each truck as it enters the site and the weight of the truck as it leaves the site. C. Record production on a daily basis. D. Use the production data to calculate a new rolling 12-month total by the 20th data of each month using data from the previous 12 months. E. Keep production records for all periods the plant is in operation. [R307-401-8] II.B.1.c The owner/operator shall not operate the aggregate crushing/screening operations for more than 3,600 hours per rolling 12-month period. [R307-401-8] II.B.1.c.1 The owner/operator shall: A. Determine hours of operation by supervisor monitoring and maintaining of an operations log. B. Use the hours of operation to calculate a new rolling 12-month total by the 20th day of each month using data from the previous 12 months. [R307-401-8] II.B.2 The Concrete Batch Plant and Associated Equipment shall be subject to the following: II.B.2.a The owner/operator shall not allow visible emissions from the concrete batch plant to exceed 7% opacity. [R307-312-4] DAQE-AN100210008-24 Page 7 II.B.2.b The owner/operator shall not produce more than 100,000 cubic yards of concrete per rolling 12-month period. [R307-401-8] II.B.2.b.1 The owner/operator shall: A. Determine production by weighing products as they exit/enter the site. B. Record the weight of each truck as it enters the site and the weight of each truck as it leaves the site. C. Record production on a daily basis. D. Use the production data to calculate a new rolling 12-month total by the 20th day of each month using data from the previous 12 months. E. Keep production records of all periods the plant is in operation. [R307-401-8] II.B.2.c The owner/operator shall not operate the concrete batch plant for more than 2,000 hours per rolling 12-month period. [R307-401-8] II.B.2.c.1 The owner/operator shall: A. Determine hours of operation by supervisor monitoring and maintaining of an operations log. B. Use the hours of operation to calculate a new rolling 12-month total by the 20th day of each month using data from the previous 12 months. [R307-401-8] II.B.2.d The owner/operator shall control particulate emissions from the cement storage silo and the fly ash storage silo with two (2) bin vents that utilize fabric filter media. [R307-401-8] II.B.2.e The owner/operator shall use a loading shroud at the truck loading station to further prevent particulate emissions from this area. [R307-401-8] II.B.3 Baghouse Conditions II.B.3.a The owner/operator shall control particulate emissions from the concrete truck loading station with a baghouse. [R307-401-8] II.B.3.b The owner/operator shall install a manometer or magnehelic pressure gauge to measure the static pressure drop across the baghouse. [R307-401-8] II.B.3.b.1 The pressure gauge shall be located such that an inspector/operator can safely read the indicator at any time. [R307-401-8] II.B.3.b.2 The pressure gauge shall measure the pressure drop in 1-inch water column increments or less. [R307-401-8] II.B.3.c During operation of the baghouse, the owner/operator shall maintain the static pressure drop across the baghouse between two (2) and six (6) inches of water column. [R307-401-8] II.B.3.c.1 The owner/operator shall record the pressure drop at least once per operating day while the baghouse is operating. [R307-401-8] DAQE-AN100210008-24 Page 8 II.B.3.c.2 The owner/operator shall maintain the following records of the pressure drop readings: A. Unit identification; B. Date of reading; C. Daily static pressure drop readings. [R307-401-8] II.B.3.d At least once every 12 months, the owner/operator shall calibrate the pressure gauge against a primary standard. [R307-401-8] II.B.3.e The owner/operator shall not allow visible emissions from the baghouse to exceed 7% opacity. [R307-312-4] II.B.4 The Diesel Generator shall be subject to the following: II.B.4.a The owner/operator shall not operate the 560-horsepower diesel generator for more than 3,600 hours per rolling 12-month period. [R307-401] II.B.4.a.1 The owner/operator shall: A. Determine the hours of operation by supervisor monitoring and maintaining of an operations log. B. Calculate a new 12-month total by the 20th day of each month using data from the previous 12 months. [R307-401-8] II.B.4.b The owner/operator shall only combust diesel fuel that meets the definition of ultra-low sulfur diesel (ULSD), which has a sulfur content of 15 ppm or less. [40 CFR 63 Subpart ZZZZ, R307-401-8] II.B.4.b.1 The sulfur content of any fuel oil or diesel fuel shall be determined by ASTM Methods D4294-89 or approved equivalent. Certification of fuels shall be either by the owner/operator's own testing or by test reports from the fuel oil or diesel fuel marketer. Records of fuel supplier's test report on sulfur content shall be available on-site for each load delivered. [R307-203] II.B.5 All Haul Roads and Fugitive Dust Sources shall be subject to the following: II.B.5.a The owner/operator shall comply with a fugitive dust control plan (FDCP) acceptable to the Director for control of all dust sources on site. This plan shall contain sufficient controls to prevent an increase in PM10 emissions above those modeled for this AO. The limitations and conditions in the fugitive dust control plan shall not be changed without prior approval in accordance with R307-401. [R307-309-6] II.B.5.b The owner/operator shall not allow visible emissions from haul roads and fugitive dust sources to exceed 20% opacity on site and 10% opacity at the property boundary. [R307-309-5] II.B.5.b.1 Visible emission determinations for fugitive dust emissions from haul-road traffic and mobile equipment in operational areas shall use procedures similar to Method 9; however, the requirement for observations to be made at 15-second intervals over a six-minute period shall not apply. Visible emissions shall be measured at a point not less than 1/2 vehicle length behind the vehicle and not less than 1/2 the height of the vehicle. [R307-309-5, R307-401-8] DAQE-AN100210008-24 Page 9 II.B.5.c The owner/operator shall use water application and/or chemical treatment on all unpaved haul roads and other unpaved operational areas that are used by mobile equipment to maintain opacity limits listed in this AO. If the temperature is below freezing, the owner/operator may stop applying water and/or chemical treatment to the unpaved haul roads and other unpaved operational areas that are used by mobile equipment. The owner/operator shall resume applying water and/or chemical treatment to the unpaved haul roads and other unpaved operational areas that are used by mobile equipment when the temperature is above freezing. If chemical treatment is to be used, the plan must be approved by the Director. [R307-401-8] II.B.5.c.1 The owner/operator shall keep records of treatment for all periods when the plant is in operation. The records shall include the following items: A. Date and time treatments were made. B. Number of treatments made, chemical dilution ratio used, and quantity of water applied. C. Rainfall amount received, if any, and approximate amount. D. Temperature, if the temperature is below freezing. [R307-401-8] II.B.5.d The owner/operator shall not exceed a haul road length of 0.6 miles. [R307-401-8] II.B.5.e The owner/operator shall not exceed a haul road speed limit of 25 miles per hour. The haul road speed shall be posted, at a minimum, on site at the beginning of the haul road so that it is clearly visible from the haul road. [R307-401-8] II.B.5.f The access haul road(s) to State Highway 89 and affected areas of State Highway 89 that are paved shall be periodically swept or sprayed clean as dry conditions warrant or as determined necessary by the Director. [R307-309] II.B.5.f.1 The owner/operator shall keep records of cleaning paved roads. [R307-401] II.B.5.g The owner/operator shall use water application for all storage piles to minimize fugitive dust, as dry conditions warrant or as determined necessary by the Director. [R307-401-8] II.B.5.g.1 The owner/operator shall keep records of water and/or chemical treatment. [R307-401-8] II.B.5.h The owner/operator shall control all disturbed or stripped areas on site at all times for the duration of the project/operation. [R307-309] II.B.6 All Crushers, Screens, and Conveyors shall be subject to the following: II.B.6.a Visible emissions from the following emission points shall not exceed the following values: A. All crushers - 12% opacity. B. All screens - 7% opacity. C. All conveyor transfer points - 7% opacity. D. All conveyor drop points - 20% opacity. [R307-312-4, R307-401-8] DAQE-AN100210008-24 Page 10 II.B.6.b The owner/operator shall install water sprays on all crushers, screens, and conveyor transfer points on site to control fugitive emissions. Sprays shall operate whenever dry conditions warrant or as determined necessary by the Director. [R307-401-8] II.B.6.c The owner/operator shall conduct an initial performance test for each crusher, screen, and conveyor transfer point on site. Performance tests shall demonstrate compliance with the limitations specified in Table 3 to Subpart OOO. [40 CFR 60 Subpart OOO] II.B.6.c.1 Initial performance tests for fugitive emissions limits shall be conducted according to 40 CFR 60.675(c). The owner or operator may use methods and procedures specified in 40 CFR 60.675(e) as alternatives to the reference methods and procedures specified in 40 CFR 60.675(c). [40 CFR 60 Subpart OOO] II.B.6.d The owner/operator shall keep and maintain records of the initial performance test for each crusher, screen, and conveyor for the life of the equipment. [40 CFR 60 Subpart OOO, R307-401-8] PERMIT HISTORY This Approval Order shall supersede (if a modification) or will be based on the following documents: Supersedes AO DAQE-AN0100210007-09 dated August 5, 2009 DAQE-AN100210008-24 Page 11 ACRONYMS The following lists commonly used acronyms and associated translations as they apply to this document: 40 CFR Title 40 of the Code of Federal Regulations AO Approval Order BACT Best Available Control Technology CAA Clean Air Act CAAA Clean Air Act Amendments CDS Classification Data System (used by Environmental Protection Agency to classify sources by size/type) CEM Continuous emissions monitor CEMS Continuous emissions monitoring system CFR Code of Federal Regulations CMS Continuous monitoring system CO Carbon monoxide CO2 Carbon Dioxide CO2e Carbon Dioxide Equivalent - Title 40 of the Code of Federal Regulations Part 98, Subpart A, Table A-1 COM Continuous opacity monitor DAQ/UDAQ Division of Air Quality DAQE This is a document tracking code for internal Division of Air Quality use EPA Environmental Protection Agency FDCP Fugitive dust control plan GHG Greenhouse Gas(es) - Title 40 of the Code of Federal Regulations 52.21 (b)(49)(i) GWP Global Warming Potential - Title 40 of the Code of Federal Regulations Part 86.1818- 12(a) HAP or HAPs Hazardous air pollutant(s) ITA Intent to Approve LB/YR Pounds per year MACT Maximum Achievable Control Technology MMBTU Million British Thermal Units NAA Nonattainment Area NAAQS National Ambient Air Quality Standards NESHAP National Emission Standards for Hazardous Air Pollutants NOI Notice of Intent NOx Oxides of nitrogen NSPS New Source Performance Standard NSR New Source Review PM10 Particulate matter less than 10 microns in size PM2.5 Particulate matter less than 2.5 microns in size PSD Prevention of Significant Deterioration PTE Potential to Emit R307 Rules Series 307 R307-401 Rules Series 307 - Section 401 SO2 Sulfur dioxide Title IV Title IV of the Clean Air Act Title V Title V of the Clean Air Act TPY Tons per year UAC Utah Administrative Code VOC Volatile organic compounds Katie Andersen <kandersen@utah.gov> Perry Sand & Gravel - Updated DAQ Approval Order 8 messages Katie Andersen <kandersen@utah.gov>Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 1:17 PM To: Grant Ensign <gensign@clydeinc.com> Hello Grant, The Division of Air Quality has updated Approval Order (AO) DAQE-AN0100210007-09 dated August 5, 2009 for the Perry Sand and Gravel Pit. This update is a 10-Year Review to update the language, formatting, and layout of the permit to match current DAQ standards. Please see the updated Engineer Review document for your review. Please review the document thoroughly to ensure that the contents are correct. Upon approval, please sign and email it back to me at your earliest convenience. Thank you, Katie Andersen -- Katie Andersen Engineering Technician I | Minor NSR Section M: (385) 515-1748 airquality.utah.gov RN100210008.rtf 1587K Grant Ensign <gensign@clydeinc.com>Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 10:07 AM To: Katie Andersen <kandersen@utah.gov> Hey Kae, DAQ has been great about allowing the industry to remove the make/model/manufacturer of equipment on the permits since this doesn't change the potenal emissions but allows for more flexibility is replacing outdated or broken equipment with equivalent or beer machinery (with the same capacies). Can we remove all the make/model/manufacturer from II.A.2, II.A.3, II.A.4, II.A.5, II.A.7, II.A.8? That is all the changes we foresee. Thanks. 7/5/24, 12:21 PM State of Utah Mail - Perry Sand & Gravel - Updated DAQ Approval Order https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ik=0900585596&view=pt&search=all&permthid=thread-a:r-5675097909927079500&simpl=msg-a:r-51727427887168…1/4 Grant Ensign ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALIST O (801) 802-6954  C (801) 633-7830 WWW.CLYDEINC.COM From: Kae Andersen <kandersen@utah.gov> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2024 1:17 PM To: Grant Ensign <gensign@clydeinc.com> Subject: Perry Sand & Gravel - Updated DAQ Approval Order 7/5/24, 12:21 PM State of Utah Mail - Perry Sand & Gravel - Updated DAQ Approval Order https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ik=0900585596&view=pt&search=all&permthid=thread-a:r-5675097909927079500&simpl=msg-a:r-51727427887168…2/4 [Quoted text hidden] Katie Andersen <kandersen@utah.gov>Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 10:35 AM To: Alan Humpherys <ahumpherys@utah.gov> Alan, This is the response I got from the source for the 10-Year Review of the Perry Sand and Gravel Pit, Site ID 10021. Have we been removing the make/model/manufacturer information from the permits and is this something I can do? Would removing that information impact the permit? Your advice would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Katie Andersen [Quoted text hidden] Alan Humpherys <ahumpherys@utah.gov>Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 10:51 AM To: Katie Andersen <kandersen@utah.gov> Katie, As long as there isn't a condition tied to the manufacturer, I think we could remove that. There is something in the statute that states the Director can't specify a specific manufacturer, so I think that should be fine. Thanks, Alan [Quoted text hidden] -- Alan Humpherys Manager | Minor NSR Section P: (385) 306-6520 F: (801) 536-4099 airquality.utah.gov Emails to and from this email address may be considered public records and thus subject to Utah GRAMA requirements. Katie Andersen <kandersen@utah.gov>Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 11:06 AM To: Alan Humpherys <ahumpherys@utah.gov> Alan, There isn't a condition tied to the manufacturer, so I will remove it. Thank you! Katie [Quoted text hidden] Katie Andersen <kandersen@utah.gov>Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 11:11 AM To: Grant Ensign <gensign@clydeinc.com> Grant, Thank you for your comment. I've removed the make/model/manufacturer from those items in the Equipment List. I've attached the updated Engineering Review. Please sign it and send it back to me if there are no other changes. 7/5/24, 12:21 PM State of Utah Mail - Perry Sand & Gravel - Updated DAQ Approval Order https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ik=0900585596&view=pt&search=all&permthid=thread-a:r-5675097909927079500&simpl=msg-a:r-51727427887168…3/4 Cheers, Katie Andersen [Quoted text hidden] RN100210008.rtf 1593K Alan Humpherys <ahumpherys@utah.gov>Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 11:22 AM To: Katie Andersen <kandersen@utah.gov> Sounds good. [Quoted text hidden] Grant Ensign <gensign@clydeinc.com>Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 11:50 AM To: Katie Andersen <kandersen@utah.gov> Thanks! Grant Ensign ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALIST O (801) 802-6954  C (801) 633-7830 WWW.CLYDEINC.COM From: Kae Andersen <kandersen@utah.gov> Sent: Friday, July 5, 2024 11:11 AM To: Grant Ensign <gensign@clydeinc.com> Subject: Re: Perry Sand & Gravel - Updated DAQ Approval Order [Quoted text hidden] doc07311120240705104707.pdf 1071K 7/5/24, 12:21 PM State of Utah Mail - Perry Sand & Gravel - Updated DAQ Approval Order https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ik=0900585596&view=pt&search=all&permthid=thread-a:r-5675097909927079500&simpl=msg-a:r-51727427887168…4/4