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HomeMy WebLinkAboutDDW-2025-002359DDW Reports <ddwreports@utah.gov> Fwd: Sieve Analysis 1 message Jennifer Yee <jyee@utah.gov>Thu, Mar 6, 2025 at 7:21 AM To: DDW Reports <ddwreports@utah.gov> Please import into the site visit folder of two systems titles 08004 Def Corr 3-2025 08003 Def corr 3-2025 Jennifer Yee Environmental Scientist | Division of Drinking Water M: (385) 515-1501 drinkingwater.utah.gov (801) 536-4200 Emails to and from this email address may be considered public records and thus subject to Utah GRAMA requirements. Sorry - the anthracite is the top 18”-24” of the filter bed so we pushed the sample tool in until we hit the sand and then pulled it out. We would then get rid of the bottom part of the sample because we would pick up some sand. So we basically tried to use the middle 12+” of the sample. I hope that was right, that is how the guy from Jordan Valley WCD instructed me to do the sampling. When you sample with the sample tool you pull a sample of all or most of the anthracite. So we just tried to get a clean anthracite sample without sand contamination and without any contamination from the very top of the filter. Hopefully that makes sense and hopefully that was done the way you want it. The direction I got from DDW was to ask the JVWCD guy for direction. I don’t remember his name but we could find it in the emails. I also received a lot of help, including the spreadsheet, from the operator in Duchesne with the Central Utah WCD plant. Jacob Sharp, P.E. Castle Valley Special Service District 20 East 100 South Castle Dale, Utah 84513 Office: (435) 381-5333 Cell: (435) 253-1081 3/11/25, 8:07 AM State of Utah Mail - Fwd: Sieve Analysis https://mail.google.com/mail/b/AEoRXRTEo9BVkyH_orvWHDvCX0am7TXJ52k6dGwWYeZV961SyVQ_/u/0/?ik=2401283fbe&view=pt&search=all&per…1/8 From: Sarah Page <sepage@utah.gov> Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2025 3:47 PM To: jsharp@etv.net Subject: Re: Sieve Analysis But were the samples from the top of the filter, of from the middle of the filter bed (in depth), or small subsamples of all depths in the filter bed? Sarah Page, PhD Drinking Water Treatment Lead Division of Drinking Water P: (385) 272-5778 drinkingwater.utah.gov On Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 3:40 PM <jsharp@etv.net> wrote: Yep, we just took one per filter. The pictures attached is probably the best way to see. One picture is from Ferron and one is from Emery. There are two filters in each plant and all 4 filters were sampled and tested. Jacob Sharp, P.E. Castle Valley Special Service District 20 East 100 South Castle Dale, Utah 84513 Office: (435) 381-5333 Cell: (435) 253-1081 From: Sarah Page <sepage@utah.gov> Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2025 3:33 PM To: jsharp@etv.net Cc: Danielle Zebelean <dzebelean@utah.gov>; Jennifer Yee <jyee@utah.gov> Subject: Re: Sieve Analysis Can you confirm where the media samples were taken in the filter bed? 3/11/25, 8:07 AM State of Utah Mail - Fwd: Sieve Analysis https://mail.google.com/mail/b/AEoRXRTEo9BVkyH_orvWHDvCX0am7TXJ52k6dGwWYeZV961SyVQ_/u/0/?ik=2401283fbe&view=pt&search=all&per…2/8 Sarah Page, PhD Drinking Water Treatment Lead Division of Drinking Water P: (385) 272-5778 drinkingwater.utah.gov On Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 3:27 PM <jsharp@etv.net> wrote: We are actually running a sample of the new material tomorrow because we just want to see what it looks like brand new on the test. I will share the results with you. We have on hand about a dozen brand new bags of anthracite. We use it to add to our anthracite levels every few years. We lose it either through breaking down or backwashes. Jacob Sharp, P.E. Castle Valley Special Service District 20 East 100 South Castle Dale, Utah 84513 Office: (435) 381-5333 Cell: (435) 253-1081 From: Danielle Zebelean <dzebelean@utah.gov> Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2025 2:32 PM To: Sarah Page <sepage@utah.gov> Cc: jsharp@etv.net; Jennifer Yee <jyee@utah.gov> Subject: Re: Sieve Analysis Hi Sarah, From the survey notes Garrett said he checks the filter depths once or twice a year in the spring/fall. They were just missing the sieve analysis. 3/11/25, 8:07 AM State of Utah Mail - Fwd: Sieve Analysis https://mail.google.com/mail/b/AEoRXRTEo9BVkyH_orvWHDvCX0am7TXJ52k6dGwWYeZV961SyVQ_/u/0/?ik=2401283fbe&view=pt&search=all&per…3/8 Dani Zebelean, P.E. Environmental Engineer III | Division of Drinking Water M: (385) 278-5110 Hours: M - Th 7 am to 5 pm drinkingwater.utah.gov Emails to and from this email address may be considered public records and thus subject to Utah GRAMA requirements. On Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 2:29 PM Sarah Page <sepage@utah.gov> wrote: Hi Jacob, Can you also confirm that the media depths were determined? Did the media samples for Emery come from the top, middle, or composite? The smaller than expected effective size might indicate that the filters need to be scraped to remove fines. It also can be helpful to do a sieve analysis before new media is placed in the filters to confirm that the size is as expected. We did see a case where the size on the spec and the actual size did not match. Best, Sarah 3/11/25, 8:07 AM State of Utah Mail - Fwd: Sieve Analysis https://mail.google.com/mail/b/AEoRXRTEo9BVkyH_orvWHDvCX0am7TXJ52k6dGwWYeZV961SyVQ_/u/0/?ik=2401283fbe&view=pt&search=all&per…4/8 Sarah Page, PhD Drinking Water Treatment Lead Division of Drinking Water P: (385) 272-5778 drinkingwater.utah.gov ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: <jsharp@etv.net> Date: Tue, Mar 4, 2025 at 3:23 PM Subject: RE: Sieve Analysis To: Sarah Page <sepage@utah.gov> Cc: Danielle Zebelean <dzebelean@utah.gov>, Jennifer Yee <jyee@utah.gov> Hello all, I have data attached for our filter sieve analysis for both Ferron (08004) and Emery (08003) water treatment facilities. Our testing yielded results from 1.4 to 1.5 on the uniformity coefficient. The results are all on the same workbook spreadsheet but different tabs located at the bottom of the workbook. I attached an picture of the original packing slip for the anthracite in Ferron. You will see 2018 dates on it. All of the anthracite we have is purchased through Filter Tech. The supplier looks like its out of Pennsylvania. The reason that is attached is because as did the tests we kept getting higher results than the 1.4 that was on the original spreadsheet that I got from CUWCD. You will note that the packing slip calls for this anthracite to have a certain E.S. (1.0 – 1.1 mm) and a max 1.5 U.C. I am assuming that is effective size and uniformity coefficient. The same material was used when we replaced media in the Emery plant the year before. I know that I told you we would be doing the testing about a week and a half ago. When our engineer got the new sieve’s and opened them he found that one was missing. They told him it would ship direct from the manufacture. He didn’t receive it until last Monday. Garrett and I were already at the rural water conference in St. George so we decided to wait until we got back to run the sieve analysis. Sorry I didn’t let you know sooner. Please let me know what you think of our data and what the next steps are. Jacob Sharp, P.E. Castle Valley Special Service District 20 East 100 South Castle Dale, Utah 84513 Office: (435) 381-5333 Cell: (435) 253-1081 3/11/25, 8:07 AM State of Utah Mail - Fwd: Sieve Analysis https://mail.google.com/mail/b/AEoRXRTEo9BVkyH_orvWHDvCX0am7TXJ52k6dGwWYeZV961SyVQ_/u/0/?ik=2401283fbe&view=pt&search=all&per…5/8 From: Sarah Page <sepage@utah.gov> Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2025 3:00 PM To: jsharp@etv.net Cc: Danielle Zebelean <dzebelean@utah.gov>; Jennifer Yee <jyee@utah.gov> Subject: Re: Sieve Analysis Hi Jacob, Just wanted to follow up on this. Were you able to get the sieve analyses done? Best, Sarah Sarah Page, PhD Drinking Water Treatment Lead Division of Drinking Water P: (385) 272-5778 drinkingwater.utah.gov On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 11:07 AM <jsharp@etv.net> wrote: Hello, I have spoken with Steven Blake at Jordan Valley WCD and he has agreed to come and help us with our filter sieve analysis. Unfortunately, he is off until January 6th. In the meantime I am going to buy the filter sampling tool and get everything that he and I discussed prepared. I know it is my fault for waiting this long before looking at this filter analysis and I don’t have an excuse other than the fall is busy and I put it on the back burner. I am hoping for a little grace period on this sieve analysis until I can get him here to help me. Thank you, Jacob Sharp, P.E. Castle Valley Special Service District 20 East 100 South Castle Dale, Utah 84513 Office: (435) 381-5333 Cell: (435) 253-1081 3/11/25, 8:07 AM State of Utah Mail - Fwd: Sieve Analysis https://mail.google.com/mail/b/AEoRXRTEo9BVkyH_orvWHDvCX0am7TXJ52k6dGwWYeZV961SyVQ_/u/0/?ik=2401283fbe&view=pt&search=all&per…6/8 From: Sarah Page <sepage@utah.gov> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2024 10:10 AM To: Jacob Sharp <Jsharp@etv.net> Cc: Danielle Zebelean <dzebelean@utah.gov>; Jennifer Yee <jyee@utah.gov> Subject: Sieve Analysis Hi Jacob, I wanted to follow up on our conversation from this past week. To remove the filter media deficiency, you will need to have a sieve analysis done on the anthracite media, and that analysis will need to show that the matches the specs of the originally installed media. The sieve analysis standard is commonly cited from AWWA B100-16, but there is also an ASTM method, ASTM C136- 96a. The values that we need to get from the analysis are the uniformity coefficient and the effective size. As mentioned, Stephen Blake has offered to help systems with the sieve analysis. There are also several commercial laboratories that do this analysis as well. Let us know if you have any questions. Best, Sarah Sarah Page, PhD Drinking Water Treatment Lead Division of Drinking Water P: (385) 272-5778 drinkingwater.utah.gov 5 attachments 3/11/25, 8:07 AM State of Utah Mail - Fwd: Sieve Analysis https://mail.google.com/mail/b/AEoRXRTEo9BVkyH_orvWHDvCX0am7TXJ52k6dGwWYeZV961SyVQ_/u/0/?ik=2401283fbe&view=pt&search=all&per…7/8 Anthracite packing slip.jpg 977K IMG_2148.jpg 2810K IMG_2149.jpg 2875K IMG_2147.jpg 3634K Ferron-Emery WTP Sieve template.xlsx 45K 3/11/25, 8:07 AM State of Utah Mail - Fwd: Sieve Analysis https://mail.google.com/mail/b/AEoRXRTEo9BVkyH_orvWHDvCX0am7TXJ52k6dGwWYeZV961SyVQ_/u/0/?ik=2401283fbe&view=pt&search=all&per…8/8