DDW-2024-011635

Melissa Noble <[e-mail]>
DWSP review comments: Lewiston City Sports Complex Well (03009 WS005)
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Melissa Noble <[e-mail]>Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 4:17 PM
To: Marcus Simons <[e-mail]>, John DeLeon <[e-mail]>
I have reviewed the delineation section of the DWSP plan for the Sports Complex Well. Before I can concur with the delineation, the following items need to beaddressed.
1- The aquifer thickness used in the model needs to equal the screened interval. As it stands, you have the aquifer thickness as 407.58 ft but the screened interval is
170 ft. Please, change the aquifer thickness to the screened interval thickness of 170 ft.
2- As the hydraulic conductivity is calculated using the aquifer thickness, please recalculate the hydraulic conductivity using the screened interval thickness of 170 ft.
3- Please re-delineate the source protection zones based on the above changes.
Feel free to submit the delineation section only with the changes, so I can review quickly for submission of the delineation to be used for the ordinance and the
waiting Operating Permit.
When you submit the remainder of the DWSP plan, make sure the following report sections reflect the re-delineated source protection zones.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks, Melissa
Melissa N Noble, MS, PG | Environmental Scientist III | Source Protection
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John De Leon <[e-mail]>Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 5:01 PM
To: Melissa Noble <[e-mail]>, Marcus Simons <[e-mail]>
Hi Melissa,

I actually had the aquifer thickness and screened interval thickness equal to each other when I first started working on this DWSP. However, as I
was updating the model for this DWSP, I reviewed WhAEM’s definitions for the saturated thickness of the aquifer that is used as an input parameter.
It says the following:

10/2/24, 10:16 AM State of Utah Mail - DWSP review comments: Lewiston City Sports Complex Well (03009 WS005)
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ik=697874f070&view=pt&search=all&permthid=thread-a:r7466296489309200708&simpl=msg-a:r912555091166692…1/7

This review led me to believe that the saturated thickness of the aquifer in the model is not equal to the screened interval thickness in many cases,
and it seemed to me to be the case for this well. Is it ill-advised in all cases to allow these values to be different?

John De Leon, P.E., C.F.M.
Project Engineer

J-U-B ENGINEERS, Inc.
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To: Marcus Simons <[e-mail]>; John De Leon <[e-mail]>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] DWSP review comments: Lewiston City Sports Complex Well (03009 WS005)

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Melissa Noble <[e-mail]>Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 2:06 PM
To: John De Leon <[e-mail]>
Cc: Marcus Simons <[e-mail]>
Thanks for the explanation, John. I do see how WhAEm shows that for an unconfined aquifer. I have a couple of points to make.
1- It looks like the information you are referencing is specifically talking about an unconfined aquifer. Based on the well log data, and that the aquifer has a hydraulichead, this aquifer cannot be considered unconfined.
2- The saturated thickness of the aquifer is where the water is contained in the ground. The hydraulic head found in the well does not mean the ground is saturated all
the way up to 2 feet below the surface. It does mean the pressure found in the aquifer pushes the water to that level when open to atmospheric conditions.
3- It is less conservative to assume the aquifer thickness is larger than the screened interval.
4- "A generally accepted hydrogeologic method to determine aquifer thickness is to use the screened or perforated interval in the well. Another method is to use the
thickness of aquifer layers adjacent to the screened interval as shown on the geologic log or well driller report... If the aquifer is confined, the confining layer(s) and all
layers above or below it are not part of the producing aquifer." Source Protection User's Guide for Groundwater Sources, appendix E, pg 92.
DDW-2020-024512.pdf
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks, Melissa
Melissa N Noble, MS, PG | Environmental Scientist III | Source Protection
385.271.7043 (work cell) | 801.536.4200 (office) | 801.536.4311 (fax)
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John De Leon <[e-mail]>Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 2:37 PM
To: Melissa Noble <[e-mail]>
Cc: Marcus Simons <[e-mail]>, Brett Safely <[e-mail]>, Brandon Nielsen <[e-mail]>
Hi Melissa,

That clears things up. Thanks for providing that explanation. We’ll make those revisions accordingly.
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John De Leon <[e-mail]>Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 9:36 AMTo: Melissa Noble <[e-mail]>
Cc: Marcus Simons <[e-mail]>
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Hi Melissa,

Thanks for your help and guidance on this document. See the revised DWSP for the Lewiston City Cub River Sports Complex Well (03009 WS005)

Let us know if you have any additional questions / comments.
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Melissa Noble <[e-mail]>Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 8:48 AM
To: John De Leon <[e-mail]>
Cc: Marcus Simons <[e-mail]>
Thanks John!
I have received the DWSP plan and will review it.
Thanks, Melissa
Melissa N Noble, MS, PG | Environmental Scientist III | Source Protection
10/2/24, 10:16 AM State of Utah Mail - DWSP review comments: Lewiston City Sports Complex Well (03009 WS005)
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Melissa Noble <[e-mail]>Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 8:58 AM
To: John De Leon <[e-mail]>
Cc: Marcus Simons <[e-mail]>
I can concur with the delineation. Please send the delineation to Lewiston City to be covered under their source protection ordinance and cc me on the email, or have
them let me know they have received it. That will cover the land use agreement requirement for source protection and an operating permit.
There are issues that need to be addressed before I can concur with the remainder of the DWSP plan. In an effort to get the operating permit requirements
completed, I am sending this email before I am ready to outline the best route to address the remaining issues. John, please watch for an email with furtherexplanation within the week.
Thanks, Melissa
Melissa N Noble, MS, PG | Environmental Scientist III | Source Protection
385.271.7043 (work cell) | 801.536.4200 (office) | 801.536.4311 (fax)
195 North 1950 West, Salt Lake City, UT 84114
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John De Leon <[e-mail]>Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 9:01 AM
To: Melissa Noble <[e-mail]>Cc: Marcus Simons <[e-mail]>, Brett Safely <[e-mail]>
Thank you for keeping us updated Melissa and for always having helpful and prompt feedback.

John De Leon, P.E., C.F.M.
Project Engineer

J-U-B ENGINEERS, Inc.
240 West Center Street, Suite 200, Orem, UT 84057
e [e-mail] w www.jub.com
p 801 226 0393 c 512 576 7212

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From: Melissa Noble <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2024 8:59 AM
To: John De Leon <[e-mail]>
Cc: Marcus Simons <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] DWSP review comments: Lewiston City Sports Complex Well (03009 WS005)

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I can concur with the delineation. Please send the delineation to Lewiston City to be covered under their source protection ordinance and cc me on the email, or have them let me know they have received it. That will cover the land use agreement requirement for source protection a
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Melissa Noble <[e-mail]>Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 4:37 PMTo: John De Leon <[e-mail]>
Cc: Marcus Simons <[e-mail]>, Brett Safely <[e-mail]>
Before I can concur with the DWSP plan, the following items need to be addressed.
1- There can be no uncontrolled Potential Contamination Sources (PCS) in zone 1. The Treated Urban Turfgrass-Richmond CIty was addressed in the PER. I have
attached the Memo responding to the concern. Is there a reason this has been assessed as not adequately controlled? Is Richmond City not willing toimplement Best Management Strategies?
2- There can be no pollution sources in zone 2 of an unprotected aquifer. The PCS: Septic Tank-Tanner is located in zone 2. The next step is to request an exception
to rule R309-600-13(2)(b)(ii). Please address the exception request to the Division of Drinking Water Director, Nathan Lunstad. Make sure to address how the system
will continue to protect public health. Please discuss with the system how they would like to address this concern. It has often been required to increase nitrate
monitoring. Increasing public education to the PCS may be another strategy to employ. These suggestions will not guarantee the exception request will be acceptedby the Director, but will likely help. Like I said, make sure you work with the system and that they are comfortable with the strategies you propose. Feel free to reach
out if you would like to discuss this further.
Thanks, Melissa
Melissa N Noble, MS, PG | Environmental Scientist III | Source Protection
385.271.7043 (work cell) | 801.536.4200 (office) | 801.536.4311 (fax)
195 North 1950 West, Salt Lake City, UT 84114
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10/2/24, 10:16 AM State of Utah Mail - DWSP review comments: Lewiston City Sports Complex Well (03009 WS005)
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John De Leon <[e-mail]>Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 7:07 AM
To: Melissa Noble <[e-mail]>Cc: Marcus Simons <[e-mail]>, Brett Safely <[e-mail]>
Thanks for the feedback Melissa.
1 – I believe this was an oversight on my part. I believe Richmond is willing to continue implementing Best Management Strategies, but I will
confirm with Marcus and make the changes accordingly.
2 – We will coordinate with the system to determine a feasible exception to the rule and seek approval from the Director.
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I can concur with the delineation. Please send the delineation to Lewiston City to be covered under their source protection ordinance and cc me on the email, or
have them let me know they have received it. That will cover the land use agreement requirement for source protection and an operating permit.
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10/2/24, 10:16 AM State of Utah Mail - DWSP review comments: Lewiston City Sports Complex Well (03009 WS005)
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ik=697874f070&view=pt&search=all&permthid=thread-a:r7466296489309200708&simpl=msg-a:r912555091166692…7/7